Abrash ([info]ad_kay) wrote,
@ 2008-11-04 22:13:00
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OBAMA
Our nation has elected our first black President.

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[info]cappsize
2008-11-05 04:24 am UTC (link)
And I would be thrilled if it wasn't Obama & if his RACE was the important factor. But it's not & he is.

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 04:49 am UTC (link)
Sorry, couldn't disagree with you more. Obama will make an amazing President and I am thrilled that I helped him win, if even by a very small amount. I didn't vote for him because he's black. I voted for him because he was far and way the better candidate and because he and his fantastic organization caused this election to be a transformational event, like FDR winning in 1932.

I have been waiting for this election all my adult life.

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[info]cappsize
2008-11-05 04:57 am UTC (link)
Well, then I'm happy for you & I hope it proves to be everything you've got in your head that it will be. But come on. Obama is NOTHING like FDR. He was born privileged like him, true, but unless you want to say that being black is like having polio & ending up paralyzed/crippled, I don't see any similarities.

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[info]cargrem
2008-11-05 07:02 pm UTC (link)
how was Obama born into privilege?

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 07:33 pm UTC (link)
Obama was not born into privilege. And I didn't directly compare Obama to FDR. I said this election was transformational like the 1932 election (at least, I hope). Voters ages 18-29 went for Obama by 66 percent--that points to a major realignment toward progressive values that will persist for decades.

I realize that I haven't been on LJ in weeks and have really been out of touch (due to work and other RL stuff). But on the first post I have made in weeks, in which I am obviously elated, you come in here and post comments that are factually incorrect, and frankly, condescending. It was kind of like having a glass of cold water tossed into my face.

"I hope it proves to be everything you've got in your head that it will be." What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

If you had a problem with me or with something I posted, I wish you had written me privately instead of starting something in a public post. That's what I would have done. That's what I'm planning on doing.

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[info]cappsize
2008-11-05 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Then I apologize.

I meant exactly what I wrote about I hope it proves to be what you & everyone else who is so elated hope it will be, because if it is, then it will be FANTASTIC. I want to be wrong. I want to be happy about it too. But I don't see him (obviously) the way you do.

However, again I apologize. I didn't intend you to feel as if it was a direct attack upon you, I consider you & Eric friends & while I agree with y'all on many issues politically, I can't say I see this as being a victory or a good thing for our nation. I wouldn't have McCain either.

I didn't have a problem with you & again, apology that it felt like such.
I honestly thought I could respond like that without you taking it personally. I was wrong, so I apologize.

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[info]nutmeg3
2008-11-05 04:38 am UTC (link)
I feel incredibly emotional to have lived to see this.

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 04:39 am UTC (link)
I feel gut punched. I really do.

And it goes without saying, I didn't vote for him because he was black. I voted for him because he is massively well qualified and will make an amazing President.

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[info]nutmeg3
2008-11-05 04:44 am UTC (link)
Oh yes, same here. But in a country where segregation was the order of the day not so long ago, and where I still remember black kids being bussed to my elementary school as the city (Rochester, NY, not even anywhere "important") tried to promote integration, there's no way to get away from the momentousness of this.

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 04:45 am UTC (link)
ITA! Makes me cry.

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[info]compostwormbin
2008-11-05 05:45 am UTC (link)
So awesome!

*celebrates*

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 07:35 pm UTC (link)
W00T!!

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[info]chiaroscuro25
2008-11-05 05:56 am UTC (link)
I'm just thrilled that the Bush/Republican "Reign of Error" is coming to an end!

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[info]ad_kay
2008-11-05 07:34 pm UTC (link)
True, but there's a lot of dismantling to do. I would really, really like my civil rights back.

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