Abrash ([info]ad_kay) wrote,
@ 2007-09-02 18:07:00
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Edited: Confirmation bias strikes again "We are going to hit Iran. Big time."
"I don’t think it’s limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no American will know when it happens until after it happens. And whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to tell it anyway."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/1/183018/1527


ETA: This is what I get for breaking my own rule about checking stuff out. That diary was taken down. Kos himself intervened and apparently had the diary deleted, and another diarist called BS on some of Maccabee's--such as talking about Tomahawk targeting--that simply wouldn't have happened.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/2/194714/9801

It seems like the commenter, Maccabee, has had a history of being a bullshit artist and talking to in-the-loop people whom he manages to quote flawlessly without a tape recorder. One Kossack linked to six of his previous posts, and they all featured ominous warnings from articulate people with unique life experiences... with arresting, near-novelistic quotes.

Bottom line: Maccabee and people like him use very real and plausible concerns to get attention. People who get their information only from the traditional media will be inclined to dismiss the idea of an attack on Iran as patently ludicrous. Not checking stuff out damages our credibility.



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[info]fishsanwitt
2007-09-03 01:05 am UTC (link)
Seymour Hersh wrote about this last year and I was a little unsure about it - but, I have to say - everything he talked about is coming true.

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[info]ad_kay
2007-09-03 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Dunno if you caught my update, but the specific Kos diary I referenced has been taken down as a likely fraud.

Doesn't make me any less scared about W attacking Iran.

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[info]fishsanwitt
2007-09-03 05:28 pm UTC (link)
I *did* see that they took down the story, but, as I said, Seymour Hersh had an interview last year and he talked about this administration wanting to attack Iran and I believe he has the inside sources to fall back on.

I honestly can't believe they'd be *that* stupid, but who knows.

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[info]ad_kay
2007-09-03 06:37 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I have no doubt about Hersh being right on the money. That specific diarist was just trying to capitalize on this issue to get attention though.

I can't wrap my mind around anyone being so delusional, but Cheney is truly out of touch with reality, and he's the one in charge. I've read stories of the wacky ideas he had back in the first Gulf War that sounded like they came out of a James Bond ripoff--like parachuting in a bunch of special forces guys to provoke Saddam, and other stunts doomed to failure. Fortunately, the military put the kibosh on them. Wish I could remember where I read that.

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[info]compostwormbin
2007-09-03 03:03 am UTC (link)
Wow, the story has already been removed from the site.

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[info]ad_kay
2007-09-03 03:17 am UTC (link)
I think the diarist may have taken it down fearing the officer he quoted may be identifiable. He was quoting someone on a Navy carrier.

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[info]ad_kay
2007-09-03 03:35 am UTC (link)
I wur connd. No cookee fur mee.

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[info]compostwormbin
2007-09-03 04:30 am UTC (link)
LOL

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[info]sillymagpie
2007-09-04 06:34 am UTC (link)
Glad that's a load of B.S. A secret U.S. attach would be difficult (and stupid, even for Bush).

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[info]ad_kay
2007-09-04 01:25 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I think the threat of an attack on Iran is very real. The administration is doing the exact same thing this year for Iran that it did back in 2002 to ramp up the war engine for Iraq. The only thing that has been IDed as a fraud were the made-up military "facts" in this particular Kos diary.

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[info]sillymagpie
2007-09-05 06:21 am UTC (link)
I'm really really really hoping that the current antiwar climate will discourage this. Please.

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